England pair Kate Cross and Alex Hartley open up on their new podcast which discusses despair


Kate Cross and Alex Hartley have performed for the England Ladies’s cricket staff, will each play for the Manchester Originals within the Hundred this summer season, and co-host a podcast which is able to now be accessible on BBC Sounds alongside Check Match Particular.

And in an unique interview with Sportsmail‘s Cricket Correspondent Paul Newman, Cross and Hartley opened up on the podcast, during which they freely talk about psychological well being points.

In addition they talked getting alongside regardless of being ‘full opposites’, that World Cup-winning day again in 2017, and the notorious social media back-and-forth with England males’s opening batsman Rory Burns.

England pair Alex Hartley (left) and Kate Cross (right) gave Sportsmail an exclusive interview

England pair Alex Hartley (left) and Kate Cross (proper) gave Sportsmail an unique interview

Sportsmail‘s Paul Newman: Many congrats in your No Balls podcast. It is nice enjoyable and is clearly going from power to power. 

Now it should be accessible on the BBC Sounds platform alongside the long-lasting Check Match Particular. Inform us about that and your friendship.

Kate Cross: We grew up enjoying age-group cricket collectively in Lancashire however then Al moved to Middlesex to pursue an England profession. 

Then when she bought concerned within the England set-up our power and conditioning coach mentioned to me: ‘Will you do me a favour? You each dwell within the Manchester space. Are you able to be certain Alex joins a fitness center?’ He felt you have been unfit.

Alex Hartley: I used to be fats!

Cross: It was across the time I used to be struggling mentally as a result of we have at all times mentioned you dragged me out of that black gap. We went on to turn into a large a part of one another’s lives.

Hartley: You have been struggling and I wanted course. So I used to be the light-hearted one attempting to encourage you to have enjoyable whilst you have been saying, ‘I believe you need to cease going out and are available to the fitness center’. We have been good for one another.

Cross: We’re full opposites and I believe that is why we get on so nicely. I hate to say it however Al is sort of a breath of recent air. 

We name her ‘no filter Hartley’ as a result of she simply says what she thinks. She was like an excited pet when she bought within the England set-up. Our friendship developed from there however the podcast got here years later.

Cross (above), 29, is a medium-fast bowler for Lancashire, North West Thunder and England

Cross (above), 29, is a medium-fast bowler for Lancashire, North West Thunder and England

Hartley: I misplaced my England contract in September 2019 after which I used to be in a nasty place mentally. At some point somebody mentioned, ‘You two ought to begin a podcast’. 

And Crossy mentioned, ‘It provides you with one thing to rise up for within the morning!’ So we simply recorded it on our telephones. It is simply taken off.

Cross: It is two mates speaking. And when considered one of us has a nasty day we’ll handle that. We do not plan something. We name it the village podcast. We’re not skilled. What you see is what you get.

Hartley: It may be a shambles. We have been so excited when 45 individuals listened to the primary episode however now it is hundreds.

Newman: The place did the title come from?

Hartley: The unique title was ‘The complete tossers’ however we could not try this. Then my brother mentioned, ‘What about ‘no balls’?’ And we thought that may do. It is apt for 2 girls!

Cross: We have got merchandise now too. The extra we have put into it the extra we have got out of it. We’re not afraid to take the mickey out of one another and we do attempt to assist individuals. 

And it helps now that Graeme Swann has been on it. He is actually purchased into it. He thinks we must always go on tour!

Hartley: I do not assume we’ll promote out Wembley simply but!

Spinner Hartley (above), 27, was a member of the World Cup-winning England side in 2017

Spinner Hartley (above), 27, was a member of the World Cup-winning England aspect in 2017

Newman: And it is helped along with your media work?

Cross: Undoubtedly. It is made me much more pure on air.

Hartley: And I get launched now as ‘No Balls co-host’. It isn’t World Cup winner any extra…

Newman: However you have been an enormous a part of that well-known World Cup-winning day in 2017, Alex?

Cross: She solely talks about that day at Lord’s each week within the podcast!

Hartley: I understand how exhausting that ultimate was for Crossy as a result of ever since we have been youngsters her dream was to play within the recreation at Lord’s that I performed in…

Cross: I could not get my head round what kind of individual I used to be that day. I’ve at all times prided myself on being a staff participant however all day I did not know if I needed England to win. I needed my associates to do it. It was big for our cricket. However I used to be envious.

After they did win I used to be screaming with the perfect of them however then I needed to take myself away and thought, ‘You are not concerned on this. It isn’t your day’. 

Then I attempted to get Hartley to eat some meals as a result of I knew she’d get blind drunk and would not keep in mind something the following day!

Hartley opened up on the threats she received after a Twitter spat with England's Rory Burns

Hartley opened up on the threats she obtained after a Twitter spat with England’s Rory Burns

Hartley: It was among the finest days of my life. However the goal for 4 years was to sing the staff music at Lord’s and I used to be so drunk I do not keep in mind doing it…

Newman: The place’s your cricket at Kate? You are again within the England squad…

Cross: Earlier than the World Cup bought postponed I used to be satisfied I might be an enormous a part of that staff. However when it was known as off due to Covid-19 the wind bought taken out of my sails. 

I did all proper in New Zealand on our final tour but it surely’s given me a kick up the bottom as a result of you may by no means take something as a right in sport.

Newman: You’ll each play for the Manchester Originals within the Hundred this summer season. How large is the match for the event of girls’s cricket?

Hartley: It is huge. There will likely be equal alternative and prize cash which is all we would like actually. We do not anticipate equal pay. Not on the minute. Perhaps in a couple of years.

Cross: It’s a daring assertion from ECB. The cash will not be something like the lads earn however will likely be important for us. Not many ladies have earned six grand for 4 weeks’ cricket. It’ll additionally give way more individuals the possibility to see girls’s cricket. 

We simply weren’t seen once I was a child. Now you have bought Jos Buttler and me on the identical poster. 

Take a look at Australia. Ellyse Perry is an absolute celebrity. We have got most likely a greater cricketer in Nat Sciver in our staff. We have to make individuals realise that.

Hartley also spoke openly about her mental health struggles on the pair's No Balls podcast

Hartley additionally spoke overtly about her psychological well being struggles on the pair’s No Balls podcast

Newman: You’ve got at all times been very open, Kate, about psychological well being points and your struggles with anxiousness and despair. It has been a difficult 12 months or so for everybody. You could have helped lots of people.

Cross: The podcast has actually helped. We speak about it each week. If I will help somebody, why would not I? I’ve bought higher at speaking about it once I’m going via it.

Hartley: You mentioned to me the perfect issues for you might be typically the toughest. I typically should drive her to return out for lunch simply to get her out of the home. However Crossy has helped so many individuals. She’s relatable…

Cross: I put an image up on social media a few weeks in the past of me once I was going via a nasty time. I did not even realise I would taken it. I simply discovered it in my cellphone. It shocked me seeing myself like that.

It is that uncontrollable crying sitting in your resort room since you really feel so lonely. It does wipe you out. My social media is sort of a highlights reel of excellent issues that occur to me. Typically it is good to indicate individuals the dangerous issues.

Both Cross (right) and Hartley will represent Manchester Originals in the Hundred this summer

Each Cross (proper) and Hartley will characterize Manchester Originals within the Hundred this summer season

Newman: You skilled the dangerous aspect of social media, Alex, when a light-hearted tweet you despatched selling protection of England girls on BT Sport, the day the lads misplaced a Check in India in two days, was criticised by Rory Burns. You obtained all kinds of threats after that?

Hartley: It bought us lots of new listeners for the podcast! My tweet was taken out of context and the onslaught after it’s the purpose why all of us boycotted social media over the Financial institution Vacation weekend.

I did not imply to harm the lads as a result of my tweet was despatched when the sport might have gone both means and Rory did not imply to harm me.

Newman: Lastly, the place do you assume you’ll be in 10 years’ time?

Hartley: I hope I will likely be commentating on cricket someplace on the earth. Commentating collectively could be good. They have not allow us to try this but!

Cross: I am doing a masters diploma in sports activities directorship so I am involved in working behind the scenes to push girls’s cricket.

Hartley: I instructed the director of Lancashire cricket final week that Crossy can have his job in 5 years time! He was like, ‘Oh, sensible!’

Cross: The one factor I can assure in 5 or 10 years’ time is that you’ll be seeing large, sold-out crowds in England for girls’s cricket. It is capturing up and it will not decelerate…